diff --git a/kuser/kinit.c b/kuser/kinit.c
index 330235af0..4b85088bb 100644
--- a/kuser/kinit.c
+++ b/kuser/kinit.c
@@ -49,7 +49,7 @@ main (int argc, char **argv)
   }				  
 
   cred.client = principal;
-  cred.times.endtime = time (NULL) + 4711;
+  cred.times.endtime = 0;
 
   err = krb5_build_principal_ext (context,
 				  &cred.server,
diff --git a/lib/krb5/mk_req.c b/lib/krb5/mk_req.c
index c801c35ac..b622a2903 100644
--- a/lib/krb5/mk_req.c
+++ b/lib/krb5/mk_req.c
@@ -43,7 +43,7 @@ krb5_mk_req(krb5_context context,
 			    NULL);
   if (r)
     return r;
-  this_cred.times.endtime = time (NULL) + 4711;	/* XXX */
+  this_cred.times.endtime = 0;
 
   r = krb5_get_credentials (context, 0, ccache, &this_cred, &cred);
   if (r)